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- By Flipcommons AI Descriptions (GameFormat)
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- A rolldown is a pinball game with the plunger deleted: the machine dispenses each ball to a cup and the player rolls it onto the playfield by hand, over rollover buttons and into scoring pockets.[1][2] The form sat close enough to standard pinball that makers built some designs both ways at once — a standard cabinet with a ball shooter alongside a rolldown console of the same game[3] — and operators converted machines from one to the other, blocking the shooter lane and setting a ball cup where the spring-loaded shooter had been.[4] ## Genco and the postwar rush The form belonged to [[manufacturer:genco]] before anyone else. Genco was well known for its rolldowns, a line running back to wartime baseball games like *[[title:play-ball-9]]* (1942),[5] which distributors of the day advertised as roll down games.[6][7] When production resumed after the war, Genco led with the format again: *[[title:total-roll]]* entered production in October 1945 and ran to 4,518 units,[8] ahead of the firm's first conventional postwar pinball.[9] Within two years the trade had piled in — [[manufacturer:bally]]'s *[[title:hy-roll]]* banked a carry-over "Super-Score" from game to game,[10] [[manufacturer:chicago-coin]] named its entry simply *[[title:roll-down]]*[11] — and the fad reached past Chicago entirely: [[manufacturer:firestone-enterprises-inc]] of Brooklyn was advertising its *[[title:tally-roll]]* by the summer of 1946.[12][13] ## Collision with the flipper Then pinball changed underneath it. Electrically operated [[gameplay-feature:flippers]] arrived with [[manufacturer:gottlieb]]'s *[[title:humpty-dumpty]]* at the end of 1947,[14] and by the close of that year every maker had a flipper game built or underway.[15] The two forms crossed inside the same cabinets: Bally's first flipper game, *[[title:melody]]*, arrived with a rolldown twin, *[[title:melody-roll]]*;[16] [[manufacturer:keeney]]'s first, *[[title:cover-girl-2]]*, was offered in rolldown and standard versions simultaneously;[3] [[manufacturer:united]]'s first, *[[title:wisconsin]]*, survives in examples operators converted between the two forms.[17] The collapse is plain in the production numbers: Chicago Coin's *Roll Down* of November 1947 ran to 350 units,[11] and Genco's *[[title:bubbles-rolldown]]* of early 1948 to 245, built in three weeks.[18] ## Into the arcade The format outlived the fad in the arcade. [[manufacturer:williams]]'s *[[title:jolly-joker-2]]* carried it into 1955, and Genco returned in 1957 with a pair of rolldowns built on gambling arithmetic — *[[title:number-roll]]* playing at blackjack,[19] and *[[title:lucky-7-genco]]* at dice, its nudge buttons letting a practiced player steer the ball into the chosen hole.[20][21]
- 1.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #1686
This game was made in two versions: A standard cabinet version and a rolldown cabinet version. Both were made by the manufacturer without flippers. The rolldown version has a ball dispenser instead of a plunger.
2.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/hyroll.htmHyRoll, Bally, 11/47, rolldown game. Has 18 roll over buttons and seven pockets which score from 1000 to 10,000 points.
3.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #579'Cover Girl' was the first flipper game made by Keeney. This game was made in two versions and offered simultaneously (per Billboard, Jan-10-1948, page 103).
4.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2800The shooter lane would have been blocked at its top end, and a ball cup installed in place of the spring-loaded ball shooter.
5.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/baseball/gencobb.htmBaseball, Genco, 1942, a roll down game (which Genco was well-known for). Game did not get produced in any great numbers because of WW2.
6.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #4968in a close-out ad from a distributor in New Jersey, where it stated, "Roll Down Baseball Game, like Genco Playball, perfect, like new, real bargain at $50.00"
7.Billboard — May 1, 19438.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #3269Production: 4518 [...] Production start date: 10/30/45
9.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2374Genco advertised this game as their first post-war 5-ball pinball machine and, while that is accurate, it was actually their fourth post-war effort, following their rolldown game Total Roll and two vertical counter games Whizz and Pee-Wee.
10.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/hyroll.htmThe 'super score' is a carry over feature that maintains from game to game.
11.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #3586Roll Down [...] IPD No. 3586 / November 01, 1947 / 1 Player [...] Production: 350
12.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #5435Firestone Enterprises, Inc., of Brooklyn, New York [...] The first Billboard ad from the manufacturer for this rolldown game is dated 07/06/1946
13.Billboard — July 6, 194614.Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PinballGottlieb's Humpty Dumpty, introduced in 1947, was the first game to add electromechanical player-controlled flippers to keep the ball in play longer.
15.Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty_(pinball)By the end of 1947 every pinball manufacturer had either produced or started to develop their own pinball machines with flippers.
16.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #1567'Melody' was the first flipper machine manufactured by Bally. The rolldown version of this game is Bally's 1947 'Melody Roll'.
17.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2800'Wisconsin' was the first flipper game made by United. Pictured in this listing is a game that appears to have been converted not once, but twice, by an operator.
18.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #4355According to Genco data, 245 units of this rolldown game were made. Production start date: 01/31/48 Production end date: 02/19/48
19.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/numroll.htmNumber Roll, Genco, 6/57, two player, a rolldown game where the player is trying to get "21" in each of the four frames. [...] This roll down game largely mimics the game of black jack.
20.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/lucky7.htmThough the game makes no reference to dice, it's apparent that the game does follow a dice style game.
21.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/lucky7.htmThe thing that makes this roll down game unique is the player nudge buttons. [...] With a bit of practice this gives the game a great deal of skill, allowing the player to nudge to the point hole desired.
- By Flipcommons AI Descriptions (GameFormat)
- description
- A rolldown is a pinball game with the plunger deleted: the machine dispenses each ball to a cup and the player rolls it onto the playfield by hand, over rollover buttons and into scoring pockets.[1][2] The form sat close enough to standard pinball that makers built some designs both ways at once — a standard cabinet with a ball shooter alongside a rolldown console of the same game[3] — and operators converted machines from one to the other, blocking the shooter lane and setting a ball cup where the spring-loaded shooter had been.[4] ## Genco and the postwar rush The form belonged to [[manufacturer:genco]] before anyone else. Genco was well known for its rolldowns, a line running back to wartime baseball games like *[[title:play-ball-9]]* (1942),[5] which distributors of the day advertised as roll down games.[6][7] When production resumed after the war, Genco led with the format again: *[[title:total-roll]]* entered production in October 1945 and ran to 4,518 units,[8] ahead of the firm's first conventional postwar pinball.[9] Within two years the trade had piled in — [[manufacturer:bally]]'s *[[title:hy-roll]]* banked a carry-over "Super-Score" from game to game,[10] [[manufacturer:chicago-coin]] named its entry simply *[[title:roll-down]]*[11] — and the fad reached past Chicago entirely: [[manufacturer:firestone-enterprises-inc]] of Brooklyn was advertising its *[[title:tally-roll]]* by the summer of 1946.[12][13] ## Collision with the flipper Then pinball changed underneath it. [[gameplay-feature:flippers]] arrived with [[manufacturer:gottlieb]]'s *[[title:humpty-dumpty]]* at the end of 1947, and by the close of that year every maker had a flipper game built or underway.[14] The two forms crossed inside the same cabinets: Bally's first flipper game, *[[title:melody]]*, arrived with a rolldown twin, *[[title:melody-roll]]*;[15] [[manufacturer:keeney]]'s first, *[[title:cover-girl-2]]*, was offered in rolldown and standard versions simultaneously;[3] [[manufacturer:united]]'s first, *[[title:wisconsin]]*, survives in examples operators converted between the two forms.[16] The collapse is plain in the production numbers: Chicago Coin's *Roll Down* of November 1947 ran to 350 units,[11] and Genco's *[[title:bubbles-rolldown]]* of early 1948 to 245, built in three weeks.[17] ## Into the arcade The format outlived the fad in the arcade. [[manufacturer:williams]]'s *[[title:jolly-joker-2]]* carried it into 1955, and Genco returned in 1957 with a pair of rolldowns built on gambling arithmetic — *[[title:number-roll]]* playing at blackjack,[18] and *[[title:lucky-7-genco]]* at dice, its nudge buttons letting a practiced player steer the ball into the chosen hole.[19][20]
- 1.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #1686
This game was made in two versions: A standard cabinet version and a rolldown cabinet version. Both were made by the manufacturer without flippers. The rolldown version has a ball dispenser instead of a plunger.
2.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/hyroll.htmHyRoll, Bally, 11/47, rolldown game. Has 18 roll over buttons and seven pockets which score from 1000 to 10,000 points.
3.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #579'Cover Girl' was the first flipper game made by Keeney. This game was made in two versions and offered simultaneously (per Billboard, Jan-10-1948, page 103).
4.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2800The shooter lane would have been blocked at its top end, and a ball cup installed in place of the spring-loaded ball shooter.
5.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/baseball/gencobb.htmBaseball, Genco, 1942, a roll down game (which Genco was well-known for). Game did not get produced in any great numbers because of WW2.
6.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #4968in a close-out ad from a distributor in New Jersey, where it stated, "Roll Down Baseball Game, like Genco Playball, perfect, like new, real bargain at $50.00"
7.Billboard — May 1, 19438.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #3269Production: 4518 [...] Production start date: 10/30/45
9.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2374Genco advertised this game as their first post-war 5-ball pinball machine and, while that is accurate, it was actually their fourth post-war effort, following their rolldown game Total Roll and two vertical counter games Whizz and Pee-Wee.
10.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/hyroll.htmThe 'super score' is a carry over feature that maintains from game to game.
11.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #3586Roll Down [...] IPD No. 3586 / November 01, 1947 / 1 Player [...] Production: 350
12.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #5435Firestone Enterprises, Inc., of Brooklyn, New York [...] The first Billboard ad from the manufacturer for this rolldown game is dated 07/06/1946
13.Billboard — July 6, 194614.Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humpty_Dumpty_(pinball)By the end of 1947 every pinball manufacturer had either produced or started to develop their own pinball machines with flippers.
15.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #1567'Melody' was the first flipper machine manufactured by Bally. The rolldown version of this game is Bally's 1947 'Melody Roll'.
16.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #2800'Wisconsin' was the first flipper game made by United. Pictured in this listing is a game that appears to have been converted not once, but twice, by an operator.
17.Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) — Internet Pinball Database (IPDB) #4355According to Genco data, 245 units of this rolldown game were made. Production start date: 01/31/48 Production end date: 02/19/48
18.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/numroll.htmNumber Roll, Genco, 6/57, two player, a rolldown game where the player is trying to get "21" in each of the four frames. [...] This roll down game largely mimics the game of black jack.
19.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/lucky7.htmThough the game makes no reference to dice, it's apparent that the game does follow a dice style game.
20.Pinball Repair & History (pinrepair.com) — http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/lucky7.htmThe thing that makes this roll down game unique is the player nudge buttons. [...] With a bit of practice this gives the game a great deal of skill, allowing the player to nudge to the point hole desired.
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